tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8869830743231338878.post554946543851569777..comments2024-02-26T21:44:40.582-08:00Comments on Smidigt!: The Appreciation of a SystemOla Berghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17990106045496525578noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8869830743231338878.post-26092893964578009212017-01-08T23:29:23.883-08:002017-01-08T23:29:23.883-08:00I just finished reading "The Fifth Discipline...I just finished reading "The Fifth Discipline" and I think it would be good to start with the ideas from that book.<br /><br />I think some other useful tools/models are: Cynefin and Non-Violent Communication.<br /><br />I agree with Niklas that it's more about the subject than the object.<br /><br />It's about the interactions and relationships :)<br /><br />CheersAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10787977752984777594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8869830743231338878.post-58093218111441253372016-12-03T14:39:49.086-08:002016-12-03T14:39:49.086-08:00Just a short reflection: I think the factor of del...Just a short reflection: I think the factor of delay in time is important as it is a big reason why we dont understand interaction. Peter Senge gives good examples of this in "The fifth discipline"Per Christian Strandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8869830743231338878.post-67628836312917614062016-12-03T00:51:45.744-08:002016-12-03T00:51:45.744-08:00Your questions Ola raise some thoughts. But I doub...Your questions Ola raise some thoughts. But I doubt that it is news for you. I think it is essentially human to try to govern or even controll the context you are within. Which then also apply to a system. An urge which is quite difficult or impossible to fulfill. Such an urge can deteriorate the system. So I think the question here is to highlight system complexity in order to moderate the reflex of controlling it. And to raise system awareness. I come to think of, which you certainly is aware of, examples in The Fifth Disciple. The more a system can be alive and experienced the better. But of course, as you say, the tricky part, is how. Complex mechanistics could be a start but is still a shourtcute which can be misunderstood. I must say, a bit pessimistic, that understanding system thinking is more about the subject than the object. A laid back confident mindset and worldview among participants would gain your aims.Niklas Angmyrhttp://www.palorial.com/SV/noreply@blogger.com